Which version of the tablets to use...
Eric Carlson
blackaegypt at hotmail.com
Sun Apr 17 19:43:17 EDT 2005
Here's the versions of the tables, with their pros and cons, building on
Aaron's classification:
1) The Original Great Table of the Watchtowers
Pro: Well it is the first, and doesn't have the logical difficulties
involved in the subsequent rearrangement.
Con: Raphael subsequently revised it so there had to be something
wrong, right?
2) The revised version of The Great Table given by Raphael several years
later to Dee.
Pro: Revised under Raphael, accepted by Dee.
Con: Logical difficulty. The position of the Tables changed but not
the attributes of the Lesser Angles, this causes problems because it
destroys the validity of the sigils of the governors previously received
because they cross the bounds of the Lesser Angles.
3) The original multi-lettered Golden Dawn tablets, based off of the
revised Table of Raphael.
Pro: Only thing I can think is it is the most widespread & has the
weight of GD tradition.
Con: Where they were unsure of which letters to use, they put them all
in, I think this is the worst way to rectify the system. There is another
difference too in the GD version, with the rea rrangment of the Lesser
Angles by Raphael they changed the attributes of the Angles (which Dee did
not), the Lesser Angle of Fire became the Lesser Angle of Earth; Water
became Fire, and Earth became Water.
4) Hulse's rectification of the Great table using the sigils of the
Governors as the ultimate pattern of the Watchtowers.
Pro: It does have a logical consistency and the sigils of the
Governors were received before the Great Table (and Dee & Kelly weren't
aware that there was a link to the Governors while receiving the
Watchtowers).
Con: Using it throws the linear names of God off, for example "mph
arsl gaiol" becomes "mph arsl gaich". An arbitrary way to rectify the
system?
5) The last version of the Great Table chronologically in Dee's diaries,
available in 'Practical
Angel Magic of Dr John Dee's Enochian Tables' and also Sloane Ms. 307. This
is the revised Table of Raphael with some minor differences in lettering.
Pro: It is the last table chronologically in Dee's records and
represents Dee's ultimate rectification.
Con: All we have is the table, we don't know what caused Dee to make
the changes. Perhaps the Angels finally resolved everything for Dee?
6) Donald Tyson has created his own table, different from the Original and
the Revised Table of Raphael. He believes that Dee accidently, incorrectly
placed the Angles of the Watchtowers.
Pro: You can make a case that they Angles were incorrectly placed.
Con: Not much to base yet another rectification of the system on. And
Tyson is the guy that has claimed Enochian is a trojan horse designed to
cause unwitting humans to set off the Apocalypse.
My personal opinion: I think you can reject 1 & 3 out of hand. 4 & 6 are
interesting but fail to convince me. In the past I've preferred #2 but I am
putting in the letter revisions from #5 which I recently found out about,
and are in any case minor. This was Dee's best understanding of the Great
Table and in the face of no other compelling alternative, this is what I
choose (even though it means creating yet another set of Enochian tablets
for me).
Regards,
Eric
>From: "Eric Carlson" <blackaegypt at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: enochian-l at gnostica.net
>To: enochian-l at gnostica.net
>Subject: Re: Which version of the tablets to use...
>Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:31:58 +0000
>
>Just a quick response for now, I'll add some more detail later when I'm not
>so busy...
>
>Regarding #3 I am in total agreement. Nobody makes use of it anymore.
>Putting all possible letters into a square when there is doubt seems like
>the worst possible solution.
>
>#4 Hulse claims to have produced yet another definitive version of the
>tablet, claiming the underlying pattern for the table is based upon the
>sigils of the governors and working back from there.
>
>#5 There is another version put forth in the recent book 'Practical Angel
>Magic of Dr John Dee's Enochian Tables' (which is a great book BTW). I
>lean towards that as it is the version Dee used in his ceremonial magick.
>
>There is a story & a logic behind each one of the 5 alternatives, as well
>as problems with each. Later this weekend I'll try to find time to explain
>the story, logic, and problems for all of them. The only one I think can
>be rejected out of hand is #3.
>
>Regards,
>
>Eric
>
>>From: aaron at leitch.net
>>Reply-To: enochian-l at gnostica.net
>>To: enochian-l at gnostica.net
>>Subject: Re: Which version of the tablets to use...
>>Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:45:45 -0400
>>
>>There are three versions of which I am aware:
>>
>>1) Dee's original Great Table of the Earth. This is
>>the "correct" one, and the one I use.
>>
>>2) The "Reformed Great Table of Raphael." In fact,
>>this version of the Great Table only existed in
>>relation to the "wife-swapping" that went on between
>>Dee and Kelley. It has no relation to Dee-purist
>>Enochiana. However, it is the version adopted for
>>use by most Enochian magicians since Dee-
>>including the Golden Dawn (and that tradition is
>>pretty well set by now). ;)
>>
>>3) Then there is a version with multi-letters in some
>>of the squares. This is entirely a product of the
>>original Golden Dawn- and therefore is itself based
>>upon the "Reformed Great Table of Raphael." The
>>only difference is that Wesctott and Mathers put
>>multiple letters in any square where they were
>>unsure which letter *should* go there.
>>
>>The modern GD makes use of #2. Dee-purists
>>make use of #1. No one that I'm aware of makes
>>any use of #3 these days. ;)
>>
>>LVX
>>Aaron
>>
>>
>>On 15 Apr 2005 at 15:16, Louvel Delon wrote:
>>
>> > There are several versions/layouts of the tablets .. Without trying
>> > every different setup several times how does one decide which ones to
>> > go with. I hope this question isn't too broad. But I am having a hard
>> > time finalizing what to work with and I am thinking of building some
>> > tablets out of wood. So I don't want to make 4 or 5 different ones in
>> > order to figure it out.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > Louvel
>> >
>> >
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